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Salesforce

Salesforce rents the software big companies use to track their customers, sell to them and answer their calls, and is now adding AI agents that do part of that work.

Our viewNeutral Medium conviction
The scores
The profile · 1-4
Growth3/4 →

Revenue up 11%, but Informatica supplied about 4.5 points; without acquisitions growth is about 6%, and Agentforce Apps grow 8%.

Business quality3/4 ↓

Steady 8% attrition and the largest CRM share show real switching costs, but share is slipping and AI coding now makes rebuilding cheaper.

Financial position3/4 ↓

Net debt of about $28B after a debt-funded buyback; free cash flow near $15B covers interest, maturities run 2028 to 2066.

Execution record3/4 →

Margins and cash flow delivered for four years, but cash flow guidance was cut for financing and AI metrics were redefined.

Per share capture3/4 ↑

Shares fell about 15% in a year, but with borrowed money, and share pay still takes about a quarter of free cash flow.

Potential2/4 →

More revenue needs agents to add sales faster than they cut seats, upgrades beyond 5% of users, and customers not building their own.

Risk profile3/4 →

No customer near 10% of revenue, but a founder chief executive steers frequent large cash acquisitions and a concentrated Anthropic stake.

Valuation3/4 ↑

About 17 times cash after share pay implies about 3% growth for ever: the plan working, not the core alone.

Evidence quality3/4 →

Financials are filed and rivals' filings name Salesforce, but the AI figures and seat claims are management's and IDC arrives second-hand.

The bet · 2-3 years
Safe, little upside1.1×

If it works 1.1× · if it fails you keep about 100%.

The Verdict

We rate Salesforce neutral. It rents the software big companies run their sales and customer service on, and the business is solid: customers rarely leave and it keeps about a fifth of its market. But growth without acquisitions is only about 6%, and AI coding tools now let some customers build their own. The price is fair: after counting what it pays staff in shares, it assumes the current plan works and little more. As a bet it is defensive: the existing business roughly covers the price, but even a big success for its AI agents adds only a little.

The long caseIf companies hand routine sales and service work to software agents, Salesforce, which already holds their customer records, can charge for the agents' work instead of the seats.

The evidence under this - 7 claims
C08facthigh confidence
Attrition was about 8% at July 31, 2026, excluding Slack self-service, Informatica and current-year acquisitions, consistent with a year earlier.
against this
  • The exclusions leave out exactly the self-serve and newly bought customers most likely to leave.
  • Curative cancelled a $600,000-a-year contract for an in-house build (C22).
current state · 2026-07-31written 2026-10-04
C23factmedium confidence
IDC ranks Salesforce first in worldwide CRM software with 20.0% of revenue in 2025, against 20.7% in 2024.
against this
  • The share slipped 0.7 points in a year.
  • Both figures reach us through Salesforce's own page and a report of its announcement, not IDC's tracker.
historical · 2024 and 2025written 2026-10-04
C03estimatemedium confidence
Without Informatica, Q2 FY2027 revenue grew about 6.4%: $10,889M against $10,236M.
derivedRevenue of $11,345M less Informatica's $456M contribution (S02) is $10,889M, 6.4% above Q2 FY2026's $10,236M; Fin, Qualified and Regrello are small and not removed, so the organic figure is if anything lower.
against this
  • Management says organic growth reaccelerates in the second half and called Q3 'math' (C17).
  • Net new bookings grew fastest in four years by management's account, which shows in revenue with a lag (C21).
historical · Q2 FY2027written 2026-10-04
C11estimatemedium confidence
At $234.69 on 823M shares, market value is about $193.15B, about 16.8 times free cash flow after share pay: a 5.95% yield, implying about 3% growth for ever at a 9% return.
derived823M shares on the 10-Q cover (S03) times the 2026-10-02 close of $234.69 (S17), over $11,489M (C10); 9% less a 5.95% yield is about 3%, ignoring the growth adjustment.
against this
  • Market value includes $11.3B of strategic investments, chiefly Anthropic; without them the multiple is about 15.8.
  • Net debt of about $27.9B sits outside market value, so on company value the multiple is about 19.2 (C12).
current state · 2026-10-02written 2026-10-04
C10estimatehigh confidence
Over the four quarters to July 2026, free cash flow was about $15,154M and share-based pay $3,665M, leaving about $11,489M after share pay.
derivedFiscal 2026 free cash flow $14,402M (S05) less first-half FY2026's $6,902M plus first-half FY2027's $7,654M (S02); share pay $3,509M less $1,607M plus $1,763M from the cash flow statements.
against this
  • Only about two quarters of interest on the $25B of March 2026 notes are inside it; Q2's $473M of interest expense annualises to about $1.9B (C15).
  • Management guides fiscal 2027 free cash flow growth of only 4% to 5% (C16).
historical · four quarters to Q2 FY2027written 2026-10-04
C22factmedium confidence
Curative's chief executive said it cancelled a $600,000-a-year Salesforce CRM contract after building a replacement in two months with AI coding; it still uses Slack.
against this
  • Curative is a small start-up and its chief executive said maintaining the home-built CRM is still a challenge.
  • Filed attrition held near 8% (C08).
historical · July 2026written 2026-10-04
C42estimatelow confidence
If Agentforce stalls, shareholders keep the core: about $50B of revenue at 4.5 times sales, about $225B, less about $33B of net debt.
derivedC39 times C40, less the vendor's net debt in the pack (S17), which includes leases.
against this
  • At the rivals' 3.0 times sales the core is worth about $150B, less than today's company value.
  • The value is at fiscal 2029, not today.
forwardwritten 2026-10-04
01

The company

Salesforce keeps a company's record of its customers and runs the work around them. Sales staff track deals in it, service agents answer cases, marketers send campaigns, and Slack and its data tools move information between systems.

Customers rent it per user per year. No customer is a tenth of revenue. The alternatives are cheaper suites from HubSpot and Freshworks, Microsoft's Dynamics bundled with Office, or building their own. Its newest product, Agentforce, adds AI agents to the same software, sold in pricier editions.

The evidence under this - 6 claims
C01facthigh confidence
Salesforce rents sales, service, marketing, commerce, collaboration (Slack) and data software by subscription; no customer was 10% of revenue in fiscal 2025 or 2026.
current state · 2026-01-31written 2026-10-04
C04facthigh confidence
In Q2 FY2027 Agentforce Apps (Sales, Service, Marketing, Commerce, Slack) were $7,193M, up 8% in constant currency, and Data 360, Headless Platform and Other $3,618M, up 20%.
against this
  • The split was redrawn in Q1 FY2027, so only three quarters of growth rates exist on this basis.
  • The second group holds Informatica, so its 20% is mostly bought (C05).
historical · Q2 FY2027written 2026-10-04
C20management claimmedium confidence
Management says only 5% of Sales and Service users have upgraded to the higher editions, at a 60% to 80% price premium, and that it is 'still trapped' in per-user pricing.
against this
  • No filed figure for users, editions or the premium; the base of 5% is unstated.
  • A premium edition priced per user still depends on the number of users, which agents may cut (C28).
current state · 2026-08-26written 2026-10-04
C38inferencemedium confidence
Customers' records, workflows, integrations and partner apps sit on Salesforce, so leaving means rebuilding them; that keeps attrition near 8% against cheaper rivals.
derivedThe platform's metadata model and partner apps (S01), attrition near 8% for years (C08) and cheaper suites from HubSpot and Freshworks (C25).
against this
  • Curative rebuilt its CRM in two months with AI coding (C22).
  • About 8% of contract value lost each year is not low for a system of record.
current state · 2026-07-31written 2026-10-04
C25facthigh confidence
Freshworks' 10-K names Salesforce first among customer service suites it competes with; HubSpot sells marketing, sales and service software on one platform.
current state · 2025-12-31written 2026-10-04
C26facthigh confidence
Microsoft reports CRM inside Dynamics 365, and ServiceNow's 10-K names Salesforce among the application vendors it competes with.
current state · 2026-06-30written 2026-10-04

How it makes money

Almost all of the money is subscriptions: $10.8B of the $11.3B Salesforce took in Q2 FY2027. Customers sign contracts, usually for a year or more, and pay ahead, so $33.5B of revenue is already contracted for the next twelve months.

Two-thirds comes from the sales, service, marketing and Slack apps, which grew 8%. The rest is data and connection tools, which grew 20%, mostly because of Informatica.

The evidence under this - 4 claims
C02facthigh confidence
Revenue was $11,345M in Q2 FY2027, up 11% from $10,236M, including $456M from Informatica; subscription and support was $10,820M.
against this
  • Informatica, bought in November 2025, supplied $456M of the $1,109M increase (C03).
  • Currency helped little: growth was 11% in constant currency too.
historical · Q2 FY2027written 2026-10-04
C04facthigh confidence
In Q2 FY2027 Agentforce Apps (Sales, Service, Marketing, Commerce, Slack) were $7,193M, up 8% in constant currency, and Data 360, Headless Platform and Other $3,618M, up 20%.
against this
  • The split was redrawn in Q1 FY2027, so only three quarters of growth rates exist on this basis.
  • The second group holds Informatica, so its 20% is mostly bought (C05).
historical · Q2 FY2027written 2026-10-04
C09facthigh confidence
Fiscal 2026 revenue was $41,525M, up 10%; operating cash flow $15.0B and free cash flow $14.4B, up 16%; share-based pay $3,509M.
historical · fiscal 2026written 2026-10-04
C07facthigh confidence
Current remaining performance obligation was $33.5B at July 31, 2026, up 14%, and total RPO $66.3B, up 11%.
against this

Both include Informatica's contracts, which were not in the year-earlier figure.

current state · 2026-07-31written 2026-10-04
Where the money comes from, stream by stream
StreamShare of sales (Q2 FY2027)How it earns it
Agentforce Apps63.4%Subscriptions to the sales, service, marketing, commerce and Slack apps, mostly priced per user, billed ahead on contracts of a year or more.
Data 360, Headless Platform and Other31.9%Subscriptions to the data, integration and platform tools, including Informatica, Tableau and MuleSoft, and the AI agents' usage-priced layer.
Professional services and other4.6%Consulting and training fees for setting the software up; falling as customers buy fewer large multi-year transformation projects.

Who runs it

Marc Benioff co-founded Salesforce in 1999 and has run it since 2001. Robin Washington, on the board since 2013 and once Gilead's finance chief, took over finance in March 2025. Insiders own about 3.5%, mostly Benioff. The bonus rides on subscription sales and adjusted profit; Benioff's shares pay only if the stock beats the Nasdaq-100 and margins plus growth hit targets, or if AI sales do. None of it rides on cash left after share pay.

The evidence under this - 3 claims
C48facthigh confidence
Marc Benioff co-founded Salesforce in 1999 with Parker Harris, has been chief executive since 2001 and is chair; Robin Washington, a director since 2013 and Gilead's CFO from 2008 to 2019, has been President and Chief Operating and Financial Officer since March 2025; Miguel Milano has been President and Chief Revenue Officer since August 2023.
current state · 2026-02-28written 2026-10-04
C46facthigh confidence
As of March 25, 2026 Marc Benioff beneficially owned 22,791,882 shares, 2.8% of the company; the 17 directors and executive officers as a group owned 3.5%; Vanguard at 10.2%, BlackRock at 8.9% and State Street at 6.0% were the holders above 5%. Every share carries one vote.
current state · 2026-03-25written 2026-10-04
C47facthigh confidence
Salesforce's fiscal 2026 bonus was funded half on subscription and support revenue and half on non-GAAP operating income, moved up to 25% either way on Agentforce adoption and retention, capped at 150%, and paid 103.3% of target. The CEO's equity was all performance-based: 67% PRSUs on three-year shareholder return against the Nasdaq-100 and on non-GAAP operating margin plus subscription growth, and 33% options paying on Agentforce and Data 360 ARR, struck at $280.62.
against this
  • Non-GAAP operating margin excludes share pay, guided at 9.0% of fiscal 2027 revenue (C36), so no measure in the plan pays on free cash flow after share pay, the figure the valuation rests on (C10).
  • The ARR the options pay on is management's own metric, and the Agentforce figure inside it was widened in Q2 FY2027 (C06).
historical · fiscal 2026written 2026-10-04
02

Why it wins, and who could beat it

Why customers come back

A large customer builds years of records, custom fields, automations and links to other systems inside Salesforce, and trains its staff on it. Leaving means rebuilding all of that, so most customers renew: Salesforce loses about 8% of its contract value a year, the same as a year earlier.

An outside research firm, IDC, still ranks it first with 20.0% of the market in 2025, though that slipped from 20.7%. The protection is weakening at the edges: AI coding makes the rebuild cheaper.

The evidence under this - 4 claims
C38inferencemedium confidence
Customers' records, workflows, integrations and partner apps sit on Salesforce, so leaving means rebuilding them; that keeps attrition near 8% against cheaper rivals.
derivedThe platform's metadata model and partner apps (S01), attrition near 8% for years (C08) and cheaper suites from HubSpot and Freshworks (C25).
against this
  • Curative rebuilt its CRM in two months with AI coding (C22).
  • About 8% of contract value lost each year is not low for a system of record.
current state · 2026-07-31written 2026-10-04
C08facthigh confidence
Attrition was about 8% at July 31, 2026, excluding Slack self-service, Informatica and current-year acquisitions, consistent with a year earlier.
against this
  • The exclusions leave out exactly the self-serve and newly bought customers most likely to leave.
  • Curative cancelled a $600,000-a-year contract for an in-house build (C22).
current state · 2026-07-31written 2026-10-04
C23factmedium confidence
IDC ranks Salesforce first in worldwide CRM software with 20.0% of revenue in 2025, against 20.7% in 2024.
against this
  • The share slipped 0.7 points in a year.
  • Both figures reach us through Salesforce's own page and a report of its announcement, not IDC's tracker.
historical · 2024 and 2025written 2026-10-04
C22factmedium confidence
Curative's chief executive said it cancelled a $600,000-a-year Salesforce CRM contract after building a replacement in two months with AI coding; it still uses Slack.
against this
  • Curative is a small start-up and its chief executive said maintaining the home-built CRM is still a challenge.
  • Filed attrition held near 8% (C08).
historical · July 2026written 2026-10-04

The threat

The new threat is the customer itself. Curative, a health start-up, cancelled a $600,000-a-year Salesforce contract after building its own replacement in two months with AI coding tools. Salesforce's own annual report now lists AI-native companies that may bypass its workflows as competitors.

The old rivals remain: Microsoft, HubSpot, Freshworks and ServiceNow. Anthropic is both partner and possible rival for the agents.

The evidence under this - 5 claims
C22factmedium confidence
Curative's chief executive said it cancelled a $600,000-a-year Salesforce CRM contract after building a replacement in two months with AI coding; it still uses Slack.
against this
  • Curative is a small start-up and its chief executive said maintaining the home-built CRM is still a challenge.
  • Filed attrition held near 8% (C08).
historical · July 2026written 2026-10-04
C24facthigh confidence
Salesforce's 10-K names AI-native companies whose products 'may bypass traditional business process workflows or displace established user interfaces' among its competitors.
current state · 2026-01-31written 2026-10-04
C26facthigh confidence
Microsoft reports CRM inside Dynamics 365, and ServiceNow's 10-K names Salesforce among the application vendors it competes with.
current state · 2026-06-30written 2026-10-04
C25facthigh confidence
Freshworks' 10-K names Salesforce first among customer service suites it competes with; HubSpot sells marketing, sales and service software on one platform.
current state · 2025-12-31written 2026-10-04
C19management claimmedium confidence
Salesforce and Anthropic announced Claudeforce on August 26, 2026; the chief executive said the Anthropic stake 'has been like half our value'.
against this
  • Strategic investments were carried at $11.3B in total at July 31, about 6% of market value, not half (C12).
  • Anthropic sells agents of its own, so the partner is also a rival for the agent layer.
current state · 2026-08-26written 2026-10-04

The rivals: MSFT, HUBS, FRSH, NOW, ORCL, ADBE, and 2 more that are private, in-house or listed abroad.

Who else does this, rival by rival
TickerRivalWhere it competesHow far alongPriced against it
In-houseCustomers' own developers using AI coding agentsPriced against it: In-houseCore clouds (Sales, Service, Marketing, Commerce, Slack, Platform, Data 360, Informatica, MuleSoft, Tableau)On saleIn-house
MSFTMicrosoft Dynamics 365Priced against it: Shown, not countedCore clouds (Sales, Service, Marketing, Commerce, Slack, Platform, Data 360, Informatica, MuleSoft, Tableau)On saleShown, not counted
HUBS · FRSHHubSpot and FreshworksPriced against it: YesCore clouds (Sales, Service, Marketing, Commerce, Slack, Platform, Data 360, Informatica, MuleSoft, Tableau)On saleYes
NOWServiceNow customer service workflows and AI agentsPriced against it: One segment onlyAgentforce (AI agents, premium editions, Claudeforce and Fin)On saleOne segment only
PrivateAnthropic's and OpenAI's own agents working on company dataPriced against it: PrivateAgentforce (AI agents, premium editions, Claudeforce and Fin)On salePrivate
ORCLOraclePriced against it: One segment only-On saleOne segment only
ADBEAdobePriced against it: One segment only-On saleOne segment only
03

How big it could get

How big this could get

Salesforce already holds about a fifth of a market it has led for 13 years, so its main business grows with what companies spend on this software rather than by taking much more of it.

The new part, AI agents, is where it could grow faster, but nobody outside counts that market. The work they would do is large: 2,666,000 customer service jobs in the US in 2025, which the government expects to shrink 5% by 2035.

The evidence under this - 4 claims
C23factmedium confidence
IDC ranks Salesforce first in worldwide CRM software with 20.0% of revenue in 2025, against 20.7% in 2024.
against this
  • The share slipped 0.7 points in a year.
  • Both figures reach us through Salesforce's own page and a report of its announcement, not IDC's tracker.
historical · 2024 and 2025written 2026-10-04
C09facthigh confidence
Fiscal 2026 revenue was $41,525M, up 10%; operating cash flow $15.0B and free cash flow $14.4B, up 16%; share-based pay $3,509M.
historical · fiscal 2026written 2026-10-04
C27facthigh confidence
BLS counts 2,666,000 US customer service representative jobs in 2025 and projects them to fall 5% by 2035.
current state · 2025-12-31written 2026-10-04
C06management claimmedium confidence
Management says Agentforce ARR exceeded $1.5B at July 31, 2026, up over 240%, after widening it in Q2 to include Slackbot and Headless 360; it was $800M at January 31, 2026.
against this
  • The definition widened in Q2, so the $800M and $1.5B figures are not like for like.
  • ARR is not revenue and is not filed in the 10-Q; Fin's purchase will add to it from Q3.
current state · 2026-07-31written 2026-10-04

Who has signed

Customers had $66.3B of contracts not yet billed at the end of July 2026, half of it due within a year. The largest named agent deal is the US Department of Veterans Affairs: one firm year with two optional years, worth up to $1.6B in all.

The evidence under this - 2 claims
C07facthigh confidence
Current remaining performance obligation was $33.5B at July 31, 2026, up 14%, and total RPO $66.3B, up 11%.
against this

Both include Informatica's contracts, which were not in the year-earlier figure.

current state · 2026-07-31written 2026-10-04
C32facthigh confidence
The VA signed a one-year agentic licence agreement with Salesforce with two one-year options, a total ceiling of $1.6B, announced July 24, 2026.
historical · July 2026written 2026-10-04
Where the growth is coming from, business by business

Where the growth is coming from

BusinessShare of revenueGrowth: last quarterLast half-yearLast year
Salesforce Platform and Other24%+38.4%+29.2%+22.6%
Service Cloud23%+8.8%+8.9%+8.4%
Sales Cloud21%+9.3%+8.9%+8.5%
Integration And Analytics16%+3.7%+4.8%+7.9%
Marketing and Commerce Cloud12%+1.5%+1.7%+2.8%
Professional Services and Other5%-3.0%-4.3%-3.6%
Whole company100%+12.1%+10.4%+9.6%

The filed split through 2026-01-31. These rates are not carried forward: the reading below says why.

How we read it: The score believes the blend: Platform and Other's 29% is mostly Informatica, bought in November 2025, and without it the data group grew about 6%, like the apps.

04

The results

The numbers

Is it growing?Steady

Sales grew 11% over the twelve months to Jul 2026, about the same pace as the 9.6% in the year to Jan 2026.

Jan 2022: $26.5BJan 2023: $31.4BJan 2024: $34.9BJan 2025: $37.9BJan 2026: $41.5B12 mo to Jul 2026: $43.9B$26.5B$43.9B
Is it profitable?Healthy

Operating margin is 20%, up from 14% in the year to Jan 2024.

Jan 2022: 2.1%Jan 2023: 3.3%Jan 2024: 14%Jan 2025: 19%Jan 2026: 20%12 mo to Jul 2026: 20%2.1%20%
Does growth pay off?Flat

Running costs take 57¢ of each sales dollar, down from 71¢ in the year to Jan 2022.

Jan 2022: 71¢Jan 2023: 70¢Jan 2024: 61¢Jan 2025: 58¢Jan 2026: 58¢12 mo to Jul 2026: 57¢71¢57¢
Does it earn good returns?Low

Each dollar put into the business earns 9.2% a year after tax, up from 0.9% in the year to Jan 2022.

Jan 2022: 0.9%Jan 2024: 6.1%Jan 2025: 8.7%Jan 2026: 9.1%12 mo to Jul 2026: 9.2%0.9%9.2%
Is it making cash?Strong

It turned 34% of sales into free cash, $15.2B over the last twelve months.

Jan 2022: $5.28BJan 2023: $6.31BJan 2024: $9.50BJan 2025: $12.4BJan 2026: $14.4B12 mo to Jul 2026: $15.2B$5.28B$15.2B
Is the balance sheet safe?Light debt

It owes $27.9B more than the cash it holds, about 1.8 years of the cash its operations bring in.

Jan 2022: −$59.0MJan 2023: $1.91BJan 2024: $4.77BJan 2025: $5.60BJan 2026: −$4.87B12 mo to Jul 2026: −$27.9B−$59.0M−$27.9B
Are shares being diluted?Shrinking

The share count fell 16% in 4.5 years, and pay in shares costs 8.3% of sales.

Jan 2022: 974MJan 2023: 997MJan 2024: 984MJan 2025: 974MJan 2026: 956M12 mo to Jul 2026: 821M974M821M
All the numbers

Filed figures from the company's 10-K and 10-Q, read 2026-10-04. Fiscal years end in January.

Jan 2022Jan 2023Jan 2024Jan 2025Jan 202612 mo to Jul 2026
Size and growth
Sales$26.5B$31.4B$34.9B$37.9B$41.5B$43.9B
Sales growth+25%+18%+11%+8.7%+9.6%+11%
Profit
Gross margin73%73%75%77%78%77%
Operating margin2.1%3.3%14%19%20%20%
Net margin5.5%0.7%12%16%18%22%
What growth costs, per sales dollar
Research and development17%16%14%14%14%14%
Sales and marketing45%43%37%35%35%34%
General and admin9.8%8.1%7.3%7.5%7.2%6.9%
Pay in shares10%10%8.0%8.4%8.5%8.3%
Capital spending2.7%2.5%2.1%1.7%1.4%1.4%
Cash
Cash from operations$6.00B$7.11B$10.2B$13.1B$15.0B$15.8B
Free cash flow$5.28B$6.31B$9.50B$12.4B$14.4B$15.2B
Balance sheet
Cash and short-term investments$10.5B$12.5B$14.2B$14.0B$9.56B$11.4B
Debt$10.6B$10.6B$9.43B$8.43B$14.4B$39.3B
Net cash−$59.0M$1.91B$4.77B$5.60B−$4.87B−$27.9B
Returns and shares
Return on capital0.9%-6.1%8.7%9.1%9.2%
Shares (diluted)974M997M984M974M956M821M

What growth costs

Salesforce became far more profitable when it cut selling costs while sales kept growing. Since then growth has stopped doing that work: each cost takes about the same share of every sales dollar, so profit grows only as fast as sales. Selling is still the largest cost, and share pay is expected to rise.

The evidence under this - 2 claims
C53facthigh confidence
Per sales dollar, sales and marketing fell from 45.5 cents in fiscal 2021 to 34.5 in fiscal 2026 and 34.4 over the four quarters to July 2026, R&D from 16.9 to 14.4 and 14.5, general and administrative from 9.8 to 7.2 and 6.9, share pay from 10.3 to 8.5 and 8.3, and capital spending from 3.3 to 1.4; most of the fall came in fiscal 2024, when sales and marketing spending fell 4.8% while revenue rose 11.2%, and since fiscal 2025 no line has moved more than a cent. GAAP operating margin went from 2.1% to 20.1% and 19.9%.
against this
  • Adjusted operating margin, which excludes share pay and acquired amortisation, reached 34.1% in fiscal 2026 (C35), so the adjusted figure shows more leverage than the GAAP one.
  • Share pay is guided at 9.0% of fiscal 2027 revenue (C36), above fiscal 2026's 8.5%, and GAAP operating income was flat in Q2 FY2027 (C15).
historical · fiscal 2021 to the four quarters to July 2026written 2026-10-04
C36management claimhigh confidence
Share-based pay is guided at 9.0% of fiscal 2027 revenue, and amortisation of bought intangibles at 4.4%.
against this

Each acquisition adds retention grants, so share pay has not fallen as a share of revenue.

forwardwritten 2026-10-04

The last report (26 Aug)

Quarter ended July 2026, filed figures.

11%
Sales growth
against the same quarter a year earlier
1.9%
Growth from the quarter before
against -0.6% the quarter before that
21¢
Operating profit
per dollar of sales

In Q2 FY2027, the three months to July 2026, revenue rose 11% to $11.3B. Without Informatica it grew about 6.4%. The main apps grew 8% after currency effects, no faster than a year earlier.

Management said the number of users grew, few customers left, and Agentforce passed $1.5B of yearly recurring revenue, though on a wider definition than before. Earnings per share jumped, but most of the jump was a gain on investments, chiefly Anthropic, not the business.

What it did to the thesisIt answered the fear that customers were leaving or cutting users, for one quarter. It did not show faster growth without acquisitions, and the earnings beat came from an investment gain, so the case for a better business than the price assumes stayed unproven.

The quarter in detail

Sales growth from the previous quarter, filed figures.

Earnings per share $5.90 against $3.27 expected; $4.29 as filed, the gap being what the company adds back.

The evidence under this - 6 claims
C02facthigh confidence
Revenue was $11,345M in Q2 FY2027, up 11% from $10,236M, including $456M from Informatica; subscription and support was $10,820M.
against this
  • Informatica, bought in November 2025, supplied $456M of the $1,109M increase (C03).
  • Currency helped little: growth was 11% in constant currency too.
historical · Q2 FY2027written 2026-10-04
C03estimatemedium confidence
Without Informatica, Q2 FY2027 revenue grew about 6.4%: $10,889M against $10,236M.
derivedRevenue of $11,345M less Informatica's $456M contribution (S02) is $10,889M, 6.4% above Q2 FY2026's $10,236M; Fin, Qualified and Regrello are small and not removed, so the organic figure is if anything lower.
against this
  • Management says organic growth reaccelerates in the second half and called Q3 'math' (C17).
  • Net new bookings grew fastest in four years by management's account, which shows in revenue with a lag (C21).
historical · Q2 FY2027written 2026-10-04
C04facthigh confidence
In Q2 FY2027 Agentforce Apps (Sales, Service, Marketing, Commerce, Slack) were $7,193M, up 8% in constant currency, and Data 360, Headless Platform and Other $3,618M, up 20%.
against this
  • The split was redrawn in Q1 FY2027, so only three quarters of growth rates exist on this basis.
  • The second group holds Informatica, so its 20% is mostly bought (C05).
historical · Q2 FY2027written 2026-10-04
C06management claimmedium confidence
Management says Agentforce ARR exceeded $1.5B at July 31, 2026, up over 240%, after widening it in Q2 to include Slackbot and Headless 360; it was $800M at January 31, 2026.
against this
  • The definition widened in Q2, so the $800M and $1.5B figures are not like for like.
  • ARR is not revenue and is not filed in the 10-Q; Fin's purchase will add to it from Q3.
current state · 2026-07-31written 2026-10-04
C18facthigh confidence
Gains on strategic investments of $2,613M added $2.53 to Q2 FY2027's adjusted EPS of $5.90 and $2.43 to GAAP EPS of $4.29; $2.98 to adjusted EPS over the half.
historical · first half of fiscal 2027written 2026-10-04
C21management claimmedium confidence
Management says Sales, Service and Slack seats grew year on year in Q2 FY2027, net new bookings growth hit a four-year high, and attrition was near its record low.
against this
  • Seat counts and bookings growth are not disclosed in figures, filed or spoken.
  • Agentforce Apps revenue grew 8% in constant currency, no faster than a year earlier (C04).
current state · 2026-07-31written 2026-10-04
What management did with the money

Management borrowed $25B in March 2026 and spent it buying back shares, cutting the share count about 15% in a year. The cost is interest: $473M in Q2 against $67M a year earlier. It also keeps buying companies for cash, including Fin for $3.6B and Contentful for about $1.5B.

Insiders in 2026Q3: 22 purchases and 37 sales, from their Form 4 filings.

The evidence under this - 4 claims
C13facthigh confidence
In March 2026 Salesforce issued $25B of notes maturing 2028 to 2066 to fund a $25B accelerated buyback, which delivered about 103M shares at first.
historical · first half of fiscal 2027written 2026-10-04
C14facthigh confidence
Diluted shares were 821M in Q2 FY2027 against 962M a year earlier, down 14.7%; 823M shares were outstanding on August 20, 2026.
current state · 2026-08-20written 2026-10-04
C15facthigh confidence
Q2 FY2027 interest expense was $473M against $67M a year earlier, and GAAP operating income was flat at $2,331M.
historical · Q2 FY2027written 2026-10-04
C33facthigh confidence
Salesforce agreed to buy Fin (Intercom) for about $3.6B and Contentful for about $1.5B in cash, after Informatica in November 2025 and Qualified in April 2026.
historical · fiscal 2026 and first half of fiscal 2027written 2026-10-04
05

The price, and where we disagree

In short. Fair. Once pay in shares and investment gains are taken out, the price assumes the current plan works and steady growth after it, not a return to fast growth.

Share price
$234.69
close,
Price for each $1 of spare cash
12.7
rivals' middle 14.2
Spare cash as a share of the price
7.9%
its 6-year normal 3.6%

The shares fell from $269.11 in December 2025 to $146.32 in June 2026, on fear that AI would shrink the number of users companies pay for. Then Q2 showed users growing, and the shares rose 22.6% in one day.

So the fear has eased but not gone: analysts have grown a little less positive since June. The next answer comes on 2 December 2026, when Salesforce reports Q3 FY2027 and should show growth without acquisitions near 7%.

The evidence under this - 4 claims
C29facthigh confidence
The shares fell from $269.11 in December 2025 to $146.32 on 2026-06-22, rose 22.6% on 2026-08-27 and closed at $234.69 on 2026-10-02; over 252 sessions sales per share rose 30.3% while the sales multiple fell 23.6%.
current state · 2026-10-02written 2026-10-04
C21management claimmedium confidence
Management says Sales, Service and Slack seats grew year on year in Q2 FY2027, net new bookings growth hit a four-year high, and attrition was near its record low.
against this
  • Seat counts and bookings growth are not disclosed in figures, filed or spoken.
  • Agentforce Apps revenue grew 8% in constant currency, no faster than a year earlier (C04).
current state · 2026-07-31written 2026-10-04
C17estimatemedium confidence
The Q3 FY2027 guide of $11.42B to $11.5B, 11% to 12% growth with slightly above 4 points from Informatica, implies organic growth of about 7%.
derivedGuided growth of 11% to 12% less slightly above 4 points of Informatica (S02) leaves about 7% to 7.5%; management called Q3 'math' on the call (S04).
against this
  • The guide includes Fin and Contentful once they close, which are not organic.
  • Q2's 6.4% was below the second-half reacceleration management promised in February.
forwardwritten 2026-10-04
C30facthigh confidence
75 of 98 analysts rate Salesforce a buy; the positive share of the dated panel fell from 76.8% in June to 69.6% in October, and average targets fell 9.7% month against year.
current state · 2026-10-01written 2026-10-04
The betSafe, little upside
If it works
1.1×
from today's value, valued like the cheaper of its two rivals
If it fails
keep 100%
of today's market value: the rest of the company, less its debt
How we read the multiple

Over the last year Salesforce kept about $15.2B of spare cash. Paying staff in shares is a real cost too:

  1. Take off $3.7B of share pay and about $11.5B is left.
  2. The $193.15B market value is about 17 times that: about 6% a year.
  3. A common rule of thumb asks 9% a year, so growth must supply about 3% a year for ever.
  4. Without acquisitions it grows about 6% now, so the price is fair for the plan, not cheap.

Against its own history. Cheaper than its own past on sales, because buyers no longer pay for the fast growth they once did; the business grew slower before the price fell.

The evidence under this - 5 claims
C10estimatehigh confidence
Over the four quarters to July 2026, free cash flow was about $15,154M and share-based pay $3,665M, leaving about $11,489M after share pay.
derivedFiscal 2026 free cash flow $14,402M (S05) less first-half FY2026's $6,902M plus first-half FY2027's $7,654M (S02); share pay $3,509M less $1,607M plus $1,763M from the cash flow statements.
against this
  • Only about two quarters of interest on the $25B of March 2026 notes are inside it; Q2's $473M of interest expense annualises to about $1.9B (C15).
  • Management guides fiscal 2027 free cash flow growth of only 4% to 5% (C16).
historical · four quarters to Q2 FY2027written 2026-10-04
C11estimatemedium confidence
At $234.69 on 823M shares, market value is about $193.15B, about 16.8 times free cash flow after share pay: a 5.95% yield, implying about 3% growth for ever at a 9% return.
derived823M shares on the 10-Q cover (S03) times the 2026-10-02 close of $234.69 (S17), over $11,489M (C10); 9% less a 5.95% yield is about 3%, ignoring the growth adjustment.
against this
  • Market value includes $11.3B of strategic investments, chiefly Anthropic; without them the multiple is about 15.8.
  • Net debt of about $27.9B sits outside market value, so on company value the multiple is about 19.2 (C12).
current state · 2026-10-02written 2026-10-04
C18facthigh confidence
Gains on strategic investments of $2,613M added $2.53 to Q2 FY2027's adjusted EPS of $5.90 and $2.43 to GAAP EPS of $4.29; $2.98 to adjusted EPS over the half.
historical · first half of fiscal 2027written 2026-10-04
C12facthigh confidence
At July 31, 2026 Salesforce held $8,310M of cash and $3,093M of securities against $39,288M of debt, and $11,324M of strategic investments.
current state · 2026-07-31written 2026-10-04
C16management claimmedium confidence
Management guides fiscal 2027 revenue of $46.1B to $46.4B with slightly above 3 points from Informatica, adjusted EPS of $16.67 to $16.71, and free cash flow growth of about 4% to 5%.
against this
  • Cash flow growth was guided at 9% to 10% in February and cut to 4% to 5% in May for the interest on the buyback debt (C44).
  • The adjusted EPS guide includes about $2.98 of first-half investment gains (C18).
forwardwritten 2026-10-04
Priced against its rivals

The competitors its own annual report names, each confirmed against the rival's filing. Measured on price for each $1 of spare cash, cheapest first:

TickerCompanyprice for each $1 of spare cash
CRMSalesforce12.7×
FRSHFreshworks14.1×
HUBSHubSpot14.3×
MSFTMicrosoft not in the median57.4×

The middle of the other 2 is 14.2. Microsoft Corporation competes with it in one product line inside a much bigger company, so its price says little about this business and it is not counted in the middle. Salesforce, Inc. is cheapest of 3.

Rivals' figures come from a data provider, so read the spread of the group rather than any single pair.

Dearer than its rivals on sales but cheaper on spare cash, because it keeps far more of each sale as profit; the whole group has fallen in price.

Private or foreign rivals that cannot be priced: Zoho Corporation, Anthropic, OpenAI, Intercom, Inc. (Fin).

The bet: what it pays if it works

The bet is on Agentforce alone, the AI agents. The rest of Salesforce is valued separately, at what its rivals pay for each dollar of spare cash, turned into a price per dollar of sales.

That existing business, growing steadily, is worth about today's price on its own, so the agents come free. But even if they roughly triple in two and a half years, the whole company is worth only a little more than today: a defensive bet with little upside.

Agentforce (AI agents, premium editions, Claudeforce and Fin) revenue in two to three yearsAgentforce books of today's size neededValued like its peersLike the cheapest
$3.00Babout 2 at 100% kept1.0×1.0×
$4.50B (the big win)about 3 at 100% kept1.1×1.1×
$7.00Babout 5 at 100% kept1.1×1.1×

To pay 2× (a Fair bet) it would need about $75.43B of Agentforce (AI agents, premium editions, Claudeforce and Fin) revenue (about 50 Agentforce books of today's size); to pay 5× (a Cheap bet), about $301.07B of Agentforce (AI agents, premium editions, Claudeforce and Fin) revenue (about 201 Agentforce books of today's size), at the same multiple.

Each row is Agentforce (AI agents, premium editions, Claudeforce and Fin) alone, plus the rest of the company (Core clouds) counted at about $225.00B.

The steps it has to take

  • Done Agentforce ARR passes $1B, by management's account
  • Not started Agentforce ARR disclosed on a stable definition, with Fin split out due 2026-12-02
  • Not started Agentforce ARR reaches about $3B due 2027-12
  • Not started Agentforce ARR reaches about $4.5B due 2029-01
The detail behind the label
Rating
Expensive
the big win's payoff against the 2× and 5× lines
At their midpoint
1.1×
the same success, valued between the two
Cheap bet at about
≈ $17.42
93% below the price (close, )
The option
free
what Agentforce (AI agents, premium editions, Claudeforce and Fin) is worth if it works, and the price pays nothing for it
The evidence under this - 6 claims
C06management claimmedium confidence
Management says Agentforce ARR exceeded $1.5B at July 31, 2026, up over 240%, after widening it in Q2 to include Slackbot and Headless 360; it was $800M at January 31, 2026.
against this
  • The definition widened in Q2, so the $800M and $1.5B figures are not like for like.
  • ARR is not revenue and is not filed in the 10-Q; Fin's purchase will add to it from Q3.
current state · 2026-07-31written 2026-10-04
C39estimatemedium confidence
Revenue outside Agentforce, about $44.7B on the fiscal 2027 guide, reaches about $50B by fiscal 2029 at 6% a year.
derivedThe $46.25B midpoint of the fiscal 2027 guide (C16) less about $1.5B of Agentforce ARR (C06), grown at the 6% to 7% organic rate (C03, C17) for two years.
against this
  • If agents cut seats, the core could grow nearer 3% (C28).
  • Fin and Contentful add bought revenue from Q3, lifting the reported figure.
forwardwritten 2026-10-04
C40estimatelow confidence
The filed rivals trade at about 14 times free cash flow; at Salesforce's free cash margin of about 32% that is about 4.5 times sales.
derivedFreshworks' 14.1 and HubSpot's 14.3 times free cash flow in the frozen pack (S17), times fiscal 2027 free cash flow of about $15.05B ($14.4B grown 4.5%, C16) over $46.25B of revenue.
against this
  • The rivals' sales multiples are 3.0 and 3.4, so a cohort sales multiple would value the core about a third lower.
  • Vendor free cash flow does not take out share pay, which is heavier at HubSpot.
current state · 2026-10-04written 2026-10-04
C42estimatelow confidence
If Agentforce stalls, shareholders keep the core: about $50B of revenue at 4.5 times sales, about $225B, less about $33B of net debt.
derivedC39 times C40, less the vendor's net debt in the pack (S17), which includes leases.
against this
  • At the rivals' 3.0 times sales the core is worth about $150B, less than today's company value.
  • The value is at fiscal 2029, not today.
forwardwritten 2026-10-04
C33facthigh confidence
Salesforce agreed to buy Fin (Intercom) for about $3.6B and Contentful for about $1.5B in cash, after Informatica in November 2025 and Qualified in April 2026.
historical · fiscal 2026 and first half of fiscal 2027written 2026-10-04
C32facthigh confidence
The VA signed a one-year agentic licence agreement with Salesforce with two one-year options, a total ceiling of $1.6B, announced July 24, 2026.
historical · July 2026written 2026-10-04

Where we disagree with the market

The market believes

Salesforce is cheap: about 14 times this year's adjusted earnings, with AI fears overdone. Most analysts rate it a buy.

We believe

It is a good business at a fair price, not a cheap one, once share pay, investment gains and new interest are counted.

The cheap reading uses adjusted earnings that include gains on the Anthropic stake, and cash flow before share pay and before a full year of interest on the new debt.

The case against us: if growth without acquisitions climbs toward 9%, as management promises, today's price would prove cheap after all.

What analysts say, and the evidence
Analysts positive
70%
of 56, 1 Oct
Four months earlier
77%
of 56, 1 Jun
The evidence under this - 7 claims
C30facthigh confidence
75 of 98 analysts rate Salesforce a buy; the positive share of the dated panel fell from 76.8% in June to 69.6% in October, and average targets fell 9.7% month against year.
current state · 2026-10-01written 2026-10-04
C16management claimmedium confidence
Management guides fiscal 2027 revenue of $46.1B to $46.4B with slightly above 3 points from Informatica, adjusted EPS of $16.67 to $16.71, and free cash flow growth of about 4% to 5%.
against this
  • Cash flow growth was guided at 9% to 10% in February and cut to 4% to 5% in May for the interest on the buyback debt (C44).
  • The adjusted EPS guide includes about $2.98 of first-half investment gains (C18).
forwardwritten 2026-10-04
C18facthigh confidence
Gains on strategic investments of $2,613M added $2.53 to Q2 FY2027's adjusted EPS of $5.90 and $2.43 to GAAP EPS of $4.29; $2.98 to adjusted EPS over the half.
historical · first half of fiscal 2027written 2026-10-04
C10estimatehigh confidence
Over the four quarters to July 2026, free cash flow was about $15,154M and share-based pay $3,665M, leaving about $11,489M after share pay.
derivedFiscal 2026 free cash flow $14,402M (S05) less first-half FY2026's $6,902M plus first-half FY2027's $7,654M (S02); share pay $3,509M less $1,607M plus $1,763M from the cash flow statements.
against this
  • Only about two quarters of interest on the $25B of March 2026 notes are inside it; Q2's $473M of interest expense annualises to about $1.9B (C15).
  • Management guides fiscal 2027 free cash flow growth of only 4% to 5% (C16).
historical · four quarters to Q2 FY2027written 2026-10-04
C15facthigh confidence
Q2 FY2027 interest expense was $473M against $67M a year earlier, and GAAP operating income was flat at $2,331M.
historical · Q2 FY2027written 2026-10-04
C03estimatemedium confidence
Without Informatica, Q2 FY2027 revenue grew about 6.4%: $10,889M against $10,236M.
derivedRevenue of $11,345M less Informatica's $456M contribution (S02) is $10,889M, 6.4% above Q2 FY2026's $10,236M; Fin, Qualified and Regrello are small and not removed, so the organic figure is if anything lower.
against this
  • Management says organic growth reaccelerates in the second half and called Q3 'math' (C17).
  • Net new bookings grew fastest in four years by management's account, which shows in revenue with a lag (C21).
historical · Q2 FY2027written 2026-10-04
C22factmedium confidence
Curative's chief executive said it cancelled a $600,000-a-year Salesforce CRM contract after building a replacement in two months with AI coding; it still uses Slack.
against this
  • Curative is a small start-up and its chief executive said maintaining the home-built CRM is still a challenge.
  • Filed attrition held near 8% (C08).
historical · July 2026written 2026-10-04
06

What could go wrong, and how we would know

The risks

  • Customers build their own. AI coding let Curative replace a $600,000-a-year contract in two months; if larger companies follow, renewals fall.
  • Agents cut paid users. Salesforce charges per user, so if AI agents shrink sales and service teams, revenue falls unless pricier editions make up for it.
  • Growth is partly bought. Informatica, Fin and Contentful add revenue; without them growth is about 6%, and buying companies spends shareholders' money.
  • Debt now costs real money. Interest rose to $473M a quarter after the $25B borrowing, which slows growth in the cash left for shareholders.
  • AI figures are management's. Agentforce's $1.5B is a spoken figure on a widened definition, not a filed one.
The evidence under this - 7 claims
C22factmedium confidence
Curative's chief executive said it cancelled a $600,000-a-year Salesforce CRM contract after building a replacement in two months with AI coding; it still uses Slack.
against this
  • Curative is a small start-up and its chief executive said maintaining the home-built CRM is still a challenge.
  • Filed attrition held near 8% (C08).
historical · July 2026written 2026-10-04
C28inferencemedium confidence
Because Salesforce prices mostly per user, agents that cut sales and service headcount reduce seat revenue unless premium editions and usage pricing replace it.
derivedPer-user pricing and the 5% upgrade figure (C20), the shrinking service workforce (C27) and the 10-K's AI-native competitors (C24).
against this
  • Seats grew year on year in Q2 by management's account (C21).
  • Premium editions carry a 60% to 80% premium, which can outweigh fewer seats (C20).
forwardwritten 2026-10-04
C03estimatemedium confidence
Without Informatica, Q2 FY2027 revenue grew about 6.4%: $10,889M against $10,236M.
derivedRevenue of $11,345M less Informatica's $456M contribution (S02) is $10,889M, 6.4% above Q2 FY2026's $10,236M; Fin, Qualified and Regrello are small and not removed, so the organic figure is if anything lower.
against this
  • Management says organic growth reaccelerates in the second half and called Q3 'math' (C17).
  • Net new bookings grew fastest in four years by management's account, which shows in revenue with a lag (C21).
historical · Q2 FY2027written 2026-10-04
C15facthigh confidence
Q2 FY2027 interest expense was $473M against $67M a year earlier, and GAAP operating income was flat at $2,331M.
historical · Q2 FY2027written 2026-10-04
C06management claimmedium confidence
Management says Agentforce ARR exceeded $1.5B at July 31, 2026, up over 240%, after widening it in Q2 to include Slackbot and Headless 360; it was $800M at January 31, 2026.
against this
  • The definition widened in Q2, so the $800M and $1.5B figures are not like for like.
  • ARR is not revenue and is not filed in the 10-Q; Fin's purchase will add to it from Q3.
current state · 2026-07-31written 2026-10-04
C33facthigh confidence
Salesforce agreed to buy Fin (Intercom) for about $3.6B and Contentful for about $1.5B in cash, after Informatica in November 2025 and Qualified in April 2026.
historical · fiscal 2026 and first half of fiscal 2027written 2026-10-04
C23factmedium confidence
IDC ranks Salesforce first in worldwide CRM software with 20.0% of revenue in 2025, against 20.7% in 2024.
against this
  • The share slipped 0.7 points in a year.
  • Both figures reach us through Salesforce's own page and a report of its announcement, not IDC's tracker.
historical · 2024 and 2025written 2026-10-04
What we still do not know
  • How much of Agentforce's $1.5B is new spending on agents rather than older products now counted in it.
  • Whether the total number of paid users is rising or falling; management says it grew but gives no number.
  • How large IDC's customer software market is in dollars, and how much of Salesforce's revenue it counts.
The evidence under this - 4 claims
C06management claimmedium confidence
Management says Agentforce ARR exceeded $1.5B at July 31, 2026, up over 240%, after widening it in Q2 to include Slackbot and Headless 360; it was $800M at January 31, 2026.
against this
  • The definition widened in Q2, so the $800M and $1.5B figures are not like for like.
  • ARR is not revenue and is not filed in the 10-Q; Fin's purchase will add to it from Q3.
current state · 2026-07-31written 2026-10-04
C20management claimmedium confidence
Management says only 5% of Sales and Service users have upgraded to the higher editions, at a 60% to 80% price premium, and that it is 'still trapped' in per-user pricing.
against this
  • No filed figure for users, editions or the premium; the base of 5% is unstated.
  • A premium edition priced per user still depends on the number of users, which agents may cut (C28).
current state · 2026-08-26written 2026-10-04
C21management claimmedium confidence
Management says Sales, Service and Slack seats grew year on year in Q2 FY2027, net new bookings growth hit a four-year high, and attrition was near its record low.
against this
  • Seat counts and bookings growth are not disclosed in figures, filed or spoken.
  • Agentforce Apps revenue grew 8% in constant currency, no faster than a year earlier (C04).
current state · 2026-07-31written 2026-10-04
C23factmedium confidence
IDC ranks Salesforce first in worldwide CRM software with 20.0% of revenue in 2025, against 20.7% in 2024.
against this
  • The share slipped 0.7 points in a year.
  • Both figures reach us through Salesforce's own page and a report of its announcement, not IDC's tracker.
historical · 2024 and 2025written 2026-10-04

What would change our view

  1. Neutral→AttractiveThe price falls on an unchanged business

    It needs all of:

    • ○The market value falls to about 14 times the cash left after share pay, from about 17 today.about ≈$199.77 today, 15% below the last close
    • ○The main apps keep growing 7% or more a year after currency effects.checked at the next results, due by 2 Dec
  2. Neutral→AttractiveOrganic growth reaccelerates

    It needs all of:

    • ○Revenue growth without acquisitions reaches 9% or more.checked at the next results, due by 2 Dec
    • ○The main apps grow 10% or more a year after currency effects.checked at the next results, due by 2 Dec
  3. Neutral→UnattractiveThe seat business starts to shrink

    It needs any of:

    • ○The main apps grow less than 6% a year after currency effects.checked at the next results, due by 2 Dec
    • ○Revenue growth without acquisitions falls below 5%.checked at the next results, due by 2 Dec
We would also be wrong if
  • Salesforce loses more than about 9% of its contract value in a year.
  • The cash left after share pay falls in fiscal 2028.

What is coming

  • 31 October 2026 Final settlement of the $25B accelerated buyback: How many more shares the borrowed $25B retires beyond the first 103M, and whether the share price's rise since March means fewer shares or a cash payment.
Every dated event ahead
  • 31 October 2026 Final settlement of the $25B accelerated buyback: How many more shares the borrowed $25B retires beyond the first 103M, and whether the share price's rise since March means fewer shares or a cash payment.
  • 2 December 2026 Q3 FY2027 results: Whether growth without acquisitions reaches about 7% against Q2's 6.4%, with Agentforce Apps at 8% or more, in the first quarter including Fin and Contentful.
  • March 2027 Q4 FY2027 results and the first fiscal 2028 guide: Whether the fiscal 2028 guide keeps the path to the $63B fiscal 2030 target, and whether share pay holds near 9% of revenue.
Since we wrote this
Written
4 Oct
Price the thesis read
$234.69
2 Oct
  • 20 OctNewsSalesforce agrees to buy Braze for $5.66B in cash, closing in fiscal 2028. View heldSalesforce agrees to buy Braze for about $5.66B in cash.
  • 5 OctThesis reviewThe bet now names what it ridesThe owner asked that every bet name the macro trend behind it, after BWXT's bet was missing its chief executive's case for nuclear over gas.
  • 4 OctThesis writtenNeutral, medium convictionA durable leader whose cheap look rests on adjusted figures: after share pay, gains and interest the price is fair for about 6% organic growth.
  • 4 OctThesis reviewOwner's checklist: revenue streams, cost of growth, management, catalystsThe owner's checklist found the method silent on who runs the company, what growth costs, where the money comes from and what is dated ahead; this pass fills those four blocks from the proxy and filings.

Also checked 1 time with nothing new to act on.

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  1. S01primarycompany filing2026-03-02
    Item 1 products and the Competition classes, including AI-native companies; no customer at 10% of revenue; 83,334 employees; fiscal 2026 cash flow and share pay
    backsC01C09C24C37C48C49C53
  2. S02primarycompany filing2026-08-26
    Q2 and first-half income statement, balance sheet and cash flow; revenue split by Agentforce Apps and Data 360 groups with constant-currency growth; Agentforce ARR; cRPO; Q3 and fiscal 2027 guidance; investment gains per share
    backsC02C04C06C07C12C14C15C16C18C36
  3. S03primarycompany filing2026-08-27
    attrition about 8%; the $25B notes and accelerated buyback; $6.0B term loan; Fin and Contentful agreements; RPO $66.3B; 823M shares on the cover
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  4. S04primarytranscript2026-08-26
    Q2 FY2027 earnings call transcript (FMP)
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    the upgrade and premium figures; 'still trapped in some ways in old per user pricing models'; seat growth and attrition near lowest; Claudeforce; the Anthropic stake as 'like half our value'; 'Q3 is math'
    Only 5% of the knowledge workers that use sales and service have upgraded to the higher-end editions. We get a 60% to 80% premium.
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  5. S05primarycompany filing2026-02-25
    fiscal 2026 revenue $41.5B, operating cash flow $15.0B and free cash flow $14.4B; original fiscal 2027 guidance including 9% to 10% cash flow growth; the $63B fiscal 2030 target including Informatica; Agentforce ARR $800M
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  6. S06primarytranscript2026-05-27
    Q1 FY2027 earnings call transcript (FMP)
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    Agentforce ARR above $1B at April 30; seat growth in Sales and Service; the cash flow guidance cut
    Agentforce ARR surpassed the $1 billion mark this quarter.
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  7. S07primarycompany filing2026-09-16
    the $63B+ fiscal 2030 framework including Informatica and announced acquisitions; 190% of fiscal 2027 free cash flow returned; at least 14% share count reduction; margin and free cash flow history
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  8. S08primarycompany filing2026-02-20
    names Salesforce among customer service suites it competes with
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  9. S09primarycompany filing2026-01-29
    names Salesforce among enterprise application vendors it competes with
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  10. S10primarycompany filing2026-07-30
    Dynamics 365 includes CRM; no CRM revenue disclosed
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  11. S11secondaryindustry data2025-05-16
    IDC's 2024 share of 20.7%, IDC's CRM definition, and Salesforce's customer savings examples (Engine $2M a year; Sammons about 50% lower cost per routine inquiry)
    According to IDC, in 2024, Salesforce led all CRM vendors with a 20.7% share and generated the highest revenue among all CRM vendors.
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  12. S12secondaryindustry data2026-06-25
    IDC's 2025 share of 20.0%
    IDC said Salesforce held 20.0 percent of the global CRM market in 2025, the largest share among CRM vendors worldwide.
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  13. S13primarygovernment data2026-09-01
    2,666,000 jobs in 2025 and a projected change of -141,800 by 2035
    Employment of customer service representatives is projected to decline 5 percent from 2025 to 2035.
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  14. S15secondarynews2026-07-21
    the cancellation, its cost, the two-month build and the spokesperson's confirmation
    That Salesforce contract cost Curative $600,000 a year, Turner said. He also said that Curative built its replacement in two months.
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  15. S16primarytranscript2026-05-27
    Q1 FY2027 earnings call transcript (FMP), cash flow guidance
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    the cut of fiscal 2027 cash flow growth guidance to 4% to 5%
    Our recent debt issuance tied to the successful initial delivery of our ASR resulted in an approximately 5-point headwind to operating cash flow and free cash flow.
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  16. S17secondaryvendor data2026-10-04
    CRM research pack (FMP, FINRA, SEC XBRL), frozen
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    price and return series, the price-move split, analyst ratings and target drift, short interest, insider statistics, headcount and the filed-competitor multiples
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  17. S18primarycompany filing2026-02-12
    one customer platform for marketing, sales and customer service teams
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  18. S19primarycompany filing2026-10-04
    6 open-market purchases and 146 sales, 143 under 10b5-1 plans
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  19. S20primarycompany release2026-07-24
    the VA agreement's term and ceiling
    The AELA is a one-year contract with the option for two additional one-year renewals, with a total contract ceiling of $1.6 billion.
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  20. S21secondarynews2026-07-24
    an outside report of the same terms, from the same release
    The VA award is a one-year contract with an option for two additional one-year renewals with a total value of up to $1.6 billion.
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  21. S22primarycompany filing2026-04-16
    beneficial ownership as of March 25, 2026; the fiscal 2026 bonus, PRSU and performance-option design and the 103.3% bonus payout; the CEO's all-performance equity mix
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  22. S23primarycompany filing2026-09-11
    the Fin (Intercom) acquisition completed on September 10, 2026
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  23. S24primarycompany filing2026-09-01
    the Contentful acquisition completed on September 1, 2026
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