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HP

The world's second-biggest PC maker and its biggest printer maker, which earns most of its profit from the ink and toner people keep buying for printers they already own.

Our viewNeutral Medium conviction
The scores
The profile · 1-4
Growth2/4 →

Revenue fell from $63.5B in 2021 to $53.6B in 2024; this year's rise is memory priced through while PC units fall.

Business quality2/4 ↓

Ink and toner hold an installed base, but PCs are bought on price and HP lost units fastest; ink tanks erode supplies.

Financial position3/4 →

About $5.0B of net debt, spread maturities and an undrawn $5.0B line; suppliers fund the working capital.

Execution record3/4 →

Beat estimates each quarter of fiscal 2026 and raised guidance, but the chief executive left abruptly and PC margins fell.

Per share capture4/4 →

Shares fell from 1,220M to about 902M since 2021 on buybacks; stock pay is outrun and no deal is pending.

Potential2/4 →

Upside needs memory prices to ease and businesses to buy AI PCs, both outside HP's control; nothing is contracted.

Risk profile3/4 →

Memory from a few chip makers, Asian assembly exposed to tariffs, and an interim chief executive; customers are spread.

Valuation3/4 ↓

About 10.4 times guided earnings and a 10% free cash yield: fair if 2027 profit holds, as consensus expects.

Evidence quality3/4 →

Statements, debt and pay are filed; PC share rests on secondhand IDC and Gartner copies, and the price split on management.

The Verdict

We rate HP Neutral. The business is mixed: printing is a slowly shrinking but profitable habit, while PCs are a low-margin business bought on price, where HP lost more units than any big rival as memory costs pushed prices up. The price is fair, about 10 times this year's earnings, but only if profit holds next year. It hinges on whether HP can keep raising PC prices without losing more buyers, and nothing in the market's price pays for a recovery or charges for a worse year.

The long caseIf memory prices ease in 2027 and businesses replace ageing PCs with AI models, HP's PC margins recover while ink and toner keep paying the dividend.

The evidence under this - 6 claims
C04inferencemedium confidence
Personal Systems revenue per PC rose roughly 40% in the July quarter: the segment's growth was higher prices for memory-heavy machines, not more machines.
against this

A richer mix of commercial, premium and AI PCs also lifts the average price (C11), so not all of the rise is memory passed on.

historical · Q3 FY 2026written 2026-10-23
C09factmedium confidence
IDC counts 62.7M PCs shipped in the September 2026 quarter, down 20.1%: Lenovo 14.9M, HP 10.3M at a 16.5% share and Dell 7.6M. HP's 30.9% fall was the steepest of the top five; IDC says vendors and channels bought early ahead of price rises and that prices will stay well above a year earlier.
against this

HP's own fiscal quarter to July shows units down 16% (C03); part of the later fall may be stock bought early, which IDC itself names.

historical · Q3 CY 2026written 2026-10-23
C12facthigh confidence
In fiscal 2025 supplies, the ink and toner, were $10,916M, down 3.4% and about 65% of Printing; commercial printers were $4,633M and consumer printers $1,153M, and printer units fell 4.2%. The 10-K names Canon, Epson, Brother, Ricoh, Xerox and Pantum as rivals, plus makers of non-original cartridges.
against this

Management says supplies shrink only by a low-to-mid single-digit percentage a year (C13).

historical · FY 2025written 2026-10-23
C33inferencemedium confidence
At $33.76 the shares are 10.4 times the fiscal 2026 non-GAAP guide midpoint, 11.1 times it without refunds and 10.6 times fiscal 2027 consensus; the vendor's trailing GAAP multiple of 12.7 compares with its six-year median of about 9.0.
against this

Guided free cash flow of $3.0B to $3.2B is about a 10% yield on the $30.4B market value, and the dividend about 3.6% (C05, C21).

current state · 2026-10-22written 2026-10-23
C06inferencemedium confidence
Without tariff refunds the fiscal 2026 guide midpoint is about $3.05 of non-GAAP EPS, about 2% below fiscal 2025's $3.12, although revenue is running about 9.5% higher.
against this

Fiscal 2025 carried tariff costs that the refunds partly return, so the two years are not struck on the same cost base (C25).

forwardwritten 2026-10-23
C40inferencemedium confidence
If memory keeps rising in fiscal 2027 while units fall again, Personal Systems can hold its revenue only on higher prices, which is what cost HP the most share of any large maker in the September quarter.
against this

Management says memory costs rise more slowly in fiscal 2027 and October is the margin low (C07), and premium and AI PCs are gaining share (C11).

forwardwritten 2026-10-23
01

The company

HP makes laptops, desktops and workstations for offices and homes, and the printers, ink and toner to go with them. Outside factories in Asia build most of it, and resellers and shops sell most of it.

A company buys thousands of PCs at a time and judges them on price, security and how easily its IT staff can look after them. A household picks a laptop or a printer off the shelf, mostly on price. Once a printer is home, its owner keeps buying cartridges that fit it.

The evidence under this - 3 claims
C01facthigh confidence
HP Inc. sells notebooks, desktops, workstations, displays and accessories in Personal Systems, and office, home and industrial printers with their ink and toner in Printing; a third segment, Corporate Investments, has no revenue. Outside manufacturers build most products, most sales go through resellers and retailers, and about 65% of revenue is earned outside the US.
current state · 2025-10-31written 2026-10-23
C04inferencemedium confidence
Personal Systems revenue per PC rose roughly 40% in the July quarter: the segment's growth was higher prices for memory-heavy machines, not more machines.
against this

A richer mix of commercial, premium and AI PCs also lifts the average price (C11), so not all of the rise is memory passed on.

historical · Q3 FY 2026written 2026-10-23
C12facthigh confidence
In fiscal 2025 supplies, the ink and toner, were $10,916M, down 3.4% and about 65% of Printing; commercial printers were $4,633M and consumer printers $1,153M, and printer units fell 4.2%. The 10-K names Canon, Epson, Brother, Ricoh, Xerox and Pantum as rivals, plus makers of non-original cartridges.
against this

Management says supplies shrink only by a low-to-mid single-digit percentage a year (C13).

historical · FY 2025written 2026-10-23

How it makes money

Most of the revenue comes from PCs, which keep only about 5 cents of operating profit from each dollar. The printers keep about 18 cents, because the money is in the ink and toner sold for years after the printer itself. In fiscal 2025 those supplies brought in $10.9B, about two-thirds of printing's sales, and printing earned more profit than PCs on less than half the revenue.

The evidence under this - 3 claims
C02facthigh confidence
In the year to October 2025 revenue rose 3.2% to $55,295M: Personal Systems $38,532M at a 5.3% operating margin, down from 6.2%, and Printing $16,702M at 18.7%. Gross margin fell to 20.6% from 22.1%; diluted EPS was $2.65, and non-GAAP EPS $3.12, down 9%.
against this

Part of the margin fall was US tariffs, which the board adjusted out of the year's bonus results (C29) and which the Supreme Court later struck down (C25).

historical · FY 2025written 2026-10-23
C12facthigh confidence
In fiscal 2025 supplies, the ink and toner, were $10,916M, down 3.4% and about 65% of Printing; commercial printers were $4,633M and consumer printers $1,153M, and printer units fell 4.2%. The 10-K names Canon, Epson, Brother, Ricoh, Xerox and Pantum as rivals, plus makers of non-original cartridges.
against this

Management says supplies shrink only by a low-to-mid single-digit percentage a year (C13).

historical · FY 2025written 2026-10-23
C03facthigh confidence
In the quarter to July 2026 revenue rose 12.5% to $15,677M. Personal Systems grew 18% to $11,767M, Commercial up 22% and Consumer 10%, while PC units fell 16% and its margin slipped to 4.6% from 5.4%. Printing fell 2% to $3,912M at an 18.1% margin, supplies fell 3% and printer units 7%. Non-GAAP EPS was $0.83, including $0.11 of tariff refunds.
against this

Management says customers bought ahead of price rises in the first half, so part of the fall in units is timing (C07).

historical · Q3 FY 2026written 2026-10-23
Where the money comes from, stream by stream
StreamShare of sales (FY 2025)How it earns it
Commercial PCs49.6%Notebooks, desktops, workstations and accessories for businesses and governments.
Consumer PCs20.1%Laptops, desktops and gaming machines for households, sold mostly through retailers.
Supplies19.7%Ink, toner and other consumables for the installed base of HP printers.
Commercial printing8.4%Office laser and inkjet printers, managed print services and industrial presses.
Consumer printing2.1%Home inkjet and ink-tank printers.

Who runs it

HP has no permanent chief executive. Enrique Lores left in February 2026 for a job elsewhere, and Bruce Broussard, a director who used to run Humana, is filling in while the board searches; in August he gave no timeline. The finance chief and both business heads stayed.

Directors and officers own under 1% of the shares, and no insider bought any in the past year. Bonuses pay on sales, profit and cash, and most long-term pay rides on three years of earnings per share.

The evidence under this - 5 claims
C26facthigh confidence
Chief executive Enrique Lores left on 2 February 2026 to take a job outside HP. Director Bruce Broussard, a former Humana chief executive, is interim chief executive on $362,500 a month and a $7M share award vesting in February 2027; in August he said the search was going well but gave no timeline.
against this

The finance chief and both segment heads stayed in post (C28), so the operating team is unchanged.

current state · 2026-10-23written 2026-10-23
C28facthigh confidence
Karen Parkhill, formerly Medtronic's finance chief, has been chief financial officer since August 2024; Ketan Patel has run Personal Systems since November 2025 and Anneliese Olson Printing since November 2024.
current state · 2026-02-25written 2026-10-23
C29facthigh confidence
The 2025 bonus paid on revenue, adjusted operating profit and free cash flow, with a quarter on personal goals; results were measured after adjusting for tariffs, and the chief executive received 64.8% of target. Seventy per cent of his long-term pay is performance shares, mostly on three years of EPS goals adjusted by return against the S&P 500; the 2023 award paid 80.2%.
current state · 2026-02-25written 2026-10-23
C30facthigh confidence
Vanguard held 14.2%, BlackRock 9.6% and State Street 5.7% of the shares; directors and officers together held about 1.68M shares, under 1%.
current state · 2026-02-25written 2026-10-23
C31facthigh confidence
No insider bought shares in the year to October 2026. Insiders sold 250,011 shares in 11 open-market sales, 68.6% of them under pre-set plans; the two discretionary sellers were Ketan Patel, 33,321 shares at $23.19 in December 2025, and director Mary Anne Citrino, 45,172 at $18.47 in March 2026.
historical · November 2025 to October 2026written 2026-10-23
02

Why it wins, and who could beat it

Why customers come back

The hold HP has on its customers is in printing. A printer only takes cartridges made for it, HP's cartridges carry chips its printers check, and people rarely switch printers just to change ink, so the money keeps coming in as long as the printers stay in use.

That hold is weakening slowly. Supplies fell 3.4% in fiscal 2025, and outside counts show printer sales falling about 7% a year, with refillable ink-tank printers taking share from cartridge models. Xerox names HP among the biggest office printing rivals.

The evidence under this - 4 claims
C12facthigh confidence
In fiscal 2025 supplies, the ink and toner, were $10,916M, down 3.4% and about 65% of Printing; commercial printers were $4,633M and consumer printers $1,153M, and printer units fell 4.2%. The 10-K names Canon, Epson, Brother, Ricoh, Xerox and Pantum as rivals, plus makers of non-original cartridges.
against this

Management says supplies shrink only by a low-to-mid single-digit percentage a year (C13).

historical · FY 2025written 2026-10-23
C13management claimmedium confidence
Management expects supplies to keep shrinking by a low-to-mid single-digit percentage a year in constant currency, and the print hardware market to fall by a mid-single digit in the second half of 2026; it says big-tank printer units rose 42% with four points of share gained, and industrial printing grew for a twelfth straight quarter.
against this

IDC counts the printer market down 7.0% in the June quarter, faster than a mid-single digit (C14).

forwardwritten 2026-10-23
C14factmedium confidence
IDC counts 17.2M printers and copiers shipped worldwide in the June 2026 quarter, down 7.0%, worth $8.1B, down 5.8%, with ink-tank models taking share from cartridge models.
historical · Q2 CY 2026written 2026-10-23
C15facthigh confidence
Xerox's 10-K names HP Inc. among the larger competitors in its print business; print was $6,272M of Xerox's $7,022M of 2025 revenue, and Xerox bought Lexmark.
current state · 2025-12-31written 2026-10-23

The threat

In PCs there is no such hold. Lenovo ships more PCs than anyone, Dell sells the same business machines at a similar thin margin, Apple's Macs gained share as the market fell, and Acer and ASUS undercut on price. When memory pushed prices up in 2026, HP's shipments fell about 31%, the most of the five biggest makers.

The evidence under this - 3 claims
C09factmedium confidence
IDC counts 62.7M PCs shipped in the September 2026 quarter, down 20.1%: Lenovo 14.9M, HP 10.3M at a 16.5% share and Dell 7.6M. HP's 30.9% fall was the steepest of the top five; IDC says vendors and channels bought early ahead of price rises and that prices will stay well above a year earlier.
against this

HP's own fiscal quarter to July shows units down 16% (C03); part of the later fall may be stock bought early, which IDC itself names.

historical · Q3 CY 2026written 2026-10-23
C10factmedium confidence
Gartner counts 55.4M PCs in the September 2026 quarter, down 22.4%, after DRAM costs rose five times in a year and PC makers passed them on. It says HP had the steepest decline, 30.9%, but kept second place, its exposure to price-sensitive consumer and mainstream business buyers weighing; Apple gained share.
against this

Gartner says business demand held up best for workstations and AI PCs, where HP says it is gaining share (C11).

historical · Q3 CY 2026written 2026-10-23
C16facthigh confidence
Dell's PC business, Client Solutions, had $50,984M of revenue in the year to January 2026, up 5%, at a 5.6% operating margin; its servers and storage brought $60,826M.
historical · year to January 2026written 2026-10-23

The rivals: DELL, AAPL, XRX, MSFT, LOGI, and 4 more that are private, in-house or listed abroad.

Who else does this, rival by rival
TickerRivalWhere it competesHow far alongPriced against it
LenovoPriced against it: Listed abroadPersonal SystemsOn saleListed abroad
DELLDellPriced against it: One segment onlyPersonal SystemsOn saleOne segment only
AAPLApple MacPriced against it: One segment onlyPersonal SystemsOn saleOne segment only
Acer and ASUSPriced against it: Listed abroadPersonal SystemsOn saleListed abroad
Epson, Canon and Brother ink-tank and laser printersPriced against it: Listed abroadPrintingOn saleListed abroad
XRXXerox (with Lexmark)Priced against it: One segment onlyPrintingOn saleOne segment only
Not listedNon-original cartridge makersPriced against it: Not listedPrintingOn saleNot listed
MSFTMicrosoftPriced against it: One segment only-On saleOne segment only
LOGILogitech InternationalPriced against it: One segment only-On saleOne segment only
03

How big it could get

How big this could get

HP already ships about one PC in six sold worldwide and more printers than anyone, so there is no new market to win. About 63 million PCs shipped worldwide in the September 2026 quarter, a fifth fewer than a year earlier, and about 17 million printers in the June quarter.

Growth has to come from selling dearer machines, not more of them, and nobody publishes what each maker earns per PC.

The evidence under this - 4 claims
C09factmedium confidence
IDC counts 62.7M PCs shipped in the September 2026 quarter, down 20.1%: Lenovo 14.9M, HP 10.3M at a 16.5% share and Dell 7.6M. HP's 30.9% fall was the steepest of the top five; IDC says vendors and channels bought early ahead of price rises and that prices will stay well above a year earlier.
against this

HP's own fiscal quarter to July shows units down 16% (C03); part of the later fall may be stock bought early, which IDC itself names.

historical · Q3 CY 2026written 2026-10-23
C10factmedium confidence
Gartner counts 55.4M PCs in the September 2026 quarter, down 22.4%, after DRAM costs rose five times in a year and PC makers passed them on. It says HP had the steepest decline, 30.9%, but kept second place, its exposure to price-sensitive consumer and mainstream business buyers weighing; Apple gained share.
against this

Gartner says business demand held up best for workstations and AI PCs, where HP says it is gaining share (C11).

historical · Q3 CY 2026written 2026-10-23
C14factmedium confidence
IDC counts 17.2M printers and copiers shipped worldwide in the June 2026 quarter, down 7.0%, worth $8.1B, down 5.8%, with ink-tank models taking share from cartridge models.
historical · Q2 CY 2026written 2026-10-23
C02facthigh confidence
In the year to October 2025 revenue rose 3.2% to $55,295M: Personal Systems $38,532M at a 5.3% operating margin, down from 6.2%, and Printing $16,702M at 18.7%. Gross margin fell to 20.6% from 22.1%; diluted EPS was $2.65, and non-GAAP EPS $3.12, down 9%.
against this

Part of the margin fall was US tariffs, which the board adjusted out of the year's bonus results (C29) and which the Supreme Court later struck down (C25).

historical · FY 2025written 2026-10-23
04

The results

The numbers

Is it growing?Steady

Sales grew 8.1% over the twelve months to Jul 2026, about the same pace as the 3.2% in the year to Oct 2025.

Oct 2021: $63.5BOct 2022: $62.9BOct 2023: $53.7BOct 2024: $53.6BOct 2025: $55.3B12 mo to Jul 2026: $59.2B$63.5B$59.2B
Is it profitable?Thin

Operating margin is 5.4%, about where it was (6.4%) in the year to Oct 2023.

Oct 2021: 8.4%Oct 2022: 7.2%Oct 2023: 6.4%Oct 2024: 7.1%Oct 2025: 5.7%12 mo to Jul 2026: 5.4%8.4%5.4%
Does growth pay off?Costly

Running costs take 14¢ of each sales dollar, up from 13¢ in the year to Oct 2021.

Oct 2021: 13¢Oct 2022: 12¢Oct 2023: 15¢Oct 2024: 15¢Oct 2025: 15¢12 mo to Jul 2026: 14¢13¢14¢
Does it earn good returns?Strong

Each dollar put into the business earns 32% a year after tax, down from 95% in the year to Oct 2021.

Oct 2021: 95%Oct 2022: 48%Oct 2023: 42%Oct 2024: 39%Oct 2025: 34%12 mo to Jul 2026: 32%95%32%
Is it making cash?Solid

It turned 6.6% of sales into free cash, $3.88B over the last twelve months.

Oct 2021: $5.83BOct 2022: $3.70BOct 2023: $2.98BOct 2024: $3.16BOct 2025: $2.80B12 mo to Jul 2026: $3.88B$5.83B$3.88B
Is the balance sheet safe?Light debt

It owes $4.99B more than the cash it holds, about 1.1 years of the cash its operations bring in.

Oct 2021: −$3.19BOct 2022: −$7.87BOct 2023: −$6.38BOct 2024: −$6.43BOct 2025: −$5.98B12 mo to Jul 2026: −$4.99B−$3.19B−$4.99B
Are shares being diluted?Shrinking

The share count fell 24% in 4.8 years, and pay in shares costs 0.8% of sales.

Oct 2021: 1.22BOct 2022: 1.05BOct 2023: 1.00BOct 2024: 989MOct 2025: 953M12 mo to Jul 2026: 927M1.22B927M
All the numbers

Filed figures from the company's 10-K and 10-Q, read 2026-10-23. Fiscal years end in October.

Oct 2021Oct 2022Oct 2023Oct 2024Oct 202512 mo to Jul 2026
Size and growth
Sales$63.5B$62.9B$53.7B$53.6B$55.3B$59.2B
Sales growth+12%−0.9%−15%−0.3%+3.2%+8.1%
Profit
Gross margin21%19%21%22%21%20%
Operating margin8.4%7.2%6.4%7.1%5.7%5.4%
Net margin10%5.0%6.1%5.2%4.6%4.1%
What growth costs, per sales dollar
Research and development2.9%2.6%2.9%3.1%2.9%2.7%
Selling, general and admin9.0%8.4%10.0%11%11%10%
Pay in shares0.5%0.5%0.8%0.8%0.9%0.8%
Capital spending0.9%1.2%1.1%1.1%1.6%1.3%
Cash
Cash from operations$6.41B$4.46B$3.57B$3.75B$3.70B$4.67B
Free cash flow$5.83B$3.70B$2.98B$3.16B$2.80B$3.88B
Balance sheet
Cash and short-term investments$4.30B$3.15B$3.11B$3.24B$3.69B$4.17B
Debt$7.49B$11.0B$9.48B$9.67B$9.67B$9.16B
Net cash−$3.19B−$7.87B−$6.38B−$6.43B−$5.98B−$4.99B
Returns and shares
Return on capital95%48%42%39%34%32%
Shares (diluted)1.22B1.05B1.00B989M953M927M

What growth costs

Growing has made HP less profitable, not more. The extra sales of the past year came from passing on dearer memory at little or no profit, so the share of each dollar kept after costs fell even as revenue rose. Research spending has stayed about flat for five years.

The evidence under this - 3 claims
C39inferencemedium confidence
Revenue fell from $63.5B in fiscal 2021 to $53.6B in fiscal 2024 before rising to $55.3B and $59.2B over the year to July 2026; over the same span gross margin fell from 22.1% in fiscal 2024 to 19.9% and the operating margin from 7.1% to 5.4%, while research spending held near $1.6B.
against this

The operating line carries restructuring charges of $539M in nine months (C23), which non-GAAP figures exclude.

historical · FY 2021 to the year to July 2026written 2026-10-23
C03facthigh confidence
In the quarter to July 2026 revenue rose 12.5% to $15,677M. Personal Systems grew 18% to $11,767M, Commercial up 22% and Consumer 10%, while PC units fell 16% and its margin slipped to 4.6% from 5.4%. Printing fell 2% to $3,912M at an 18.1% margin, supplies fell 3% and printer units 7%. Non-GAAP EPS was $0.83, including $0.11 of tariff refunds.
against this

Management says customers bought ahead of price rises in the first half, so part of the fall in units is timing (C07).

historical · Q3 FY 2026written 2026-10-23
C04inferencemedium confidence
Personal Systems revenue per PC rose roughly 40% in the July quarter: the segment's growth was higher prices for memory-heavy machines, not more machines.
against this

A richer mix of commercial, premium and AI PCs also lifts the average price (C11), so not all of the rise is memory passed on.

historical · Q3 FY 2026written 2026-10-23

The last report (26 Aug)

Quarter ended July 2026, filed figures.

13%
Sales growth
against the same quarter a year earlier
8.8%
Growth from the quarter before
against -0.2% the quarter before that
6¢
Operating profit
per dollar of sales

Q3 fiscal 2026, the quarter to July, looked strong on the surface: sales grew 12.5% to $15.7B, a record for the quarter, and HP raised its forecast for the year. The detail was weaker. PC sales grew 18% while the number of PCs sold fell 16%, so the growth was higher prices, and the profit kept on each PC dollar slipped. Printing shrank 2%.

Earnings included 11 cents a share of tariff refunds after the Supreme Court struck those tariffs down, and the forecast for the October quarter is well below a year earlier once refunds are taken out.

What it did to the thesisIt confirmed that HP can push memory costs through to buyers, but showed the price of doing so: fewer PCs sold and thinner PC margins. It left open the question the view hinges on, whether profit holds next year once refunds end.

The quarter in detail

Sales growth from the previous quarter, filed figures.

Earnings per share $0.83 against $0.66 expected; $0.71 as filed, the gap being what the company adds back.

The evidence under this - 5 claims
C03facthigh confidence
In the quarter to July 2026 revenue rose 12.5% to $15,677M. Personal Systems grew 18% to $11,767M, Commercial up 22% and Consumer 10%, while PC units fell 16% and its margin slipped to 4.6% from 5.4%. Printing fell 2% to $3,912M at an 18.1% margin, supplies fell 3% and printer units 7%. Non-GAAP EPS was $0.83, including $0.11 of tariff refunds.
against this

Management says customers bought ahead of price rises in the first half, so part of the fall in units is timing (C07).

historical · Q3 FY 2026written 2026-10-23
C04inferencemedium confidence
Personal Systems revenue per PC rose roughly 40% in the July quarter: the segment's growth was higher prices for memory-heavy machines, not more machines.
against this

A richer mix of commercial, premium and AI PCs also lifts the average price (C11), so not all of the rise is memory passed on.

historical · Q3 FY 2026written 2026-10-23
C05management claimmedium confidence
Management raised fiscal 2026 guidance to non-GAAP EPS of $3.19 to $3.29, including $0.19 of tariff refunds, GAAP EPS of $2.52 to $2.62 and free cash flow of $3.0B to $3.2B; for the October quarter it guides non-GAAP EPS of $0.69 to $0.79, including $0.08 of refunds.
against this

The October-quarter guide is below the $0.93 of non-GAAP EPS earned a year earlier (C36).

forwardwritten 2026-10-23
C25facthigh confidence
After the Supreme Court struck down the IEEPA tariffs on 20 February 2026, HP applied for about $0.3B of refunds and received $127M in the July quarter and $91M after it.
historical · Q3 FY 2026written 2026-10-23
C38inferencemedium confidence
Without refunds, the October-quarter guide midpoint is about $0.66 of non-GAAP EPS, about 29% below the $0.93 of a year earlier.
against this

HP beat analysts' estimates in each of the last three quarters (C36).

forwardwritten 2026-10-23
What management did with the money

HP hands most of its cash back. In fiscal 2025 it returned $1.9B through dividends and buybacks and raised the dividend, and it has bought back so many shares that there are about a quarter fewer than in 2021. This year it has also paid down $770M of debt.

Insiders in 2026Q3: 3 purchases and 9 sales, from their Form 4 filings.

The evidence under this - 3 claims
C21facthigh confidence
In fiscal 2025 HP made $2.9B of free cash flow and returned $1.9B, about 66% of it: $1.1B of dividends and $0.85B of buybacks. It raised the quarterly dividend to $0.30.
historical · FY 2025written 2026-10-23
C23facthigh confidence
In the nine months to July 2026 revenue rose 9.5% to $44,523M: Personal Systems up 14% to $32,231M, Printing down 1% to $12,294M and supplies down 1%. HP spent $725M on buybacks and $825M on dividends and repaid $770M of debt.
historical · 9M FY 2026written 2026-10-23
C24facthigh confidence
HP had 901.8M shares outstanding on 19 August 2026, against 921M a year-end earlier and 1,220M diluted shares in fiscal 2021, with $7.7B of buyback authority left.
current state · 2026-08-19written 2026-10-23
05

The price, and where we disagree

In short. Fair. The price pays for this year's profit holding through 2027, and nothing for a PC recovery or for losing more buyers.

Share price
$33.76
close,
Price for each $1 of yearly profit
12.7
its 6-year normal 9.0

The shares have risen about 60% in six months, almost all of it because buyers now pay more for each dollar of sales, even though outside counts in October showed HP's PC shipments down about 31%. The price fell for a day on that news and then recovered.

The test comes on 24 November 2026, when HP reports its October quarter and gives its first forecast for fiscal 2027, a year it already expects to bring fewer PCs.

The evidence under this - 5 claims
C32facthigh confidence
The shares closed at $33.76 on 22 October 2026, up 19.9% in a year and 62.1% in 120 sessions, from a 52-week low of $17.56 in February; over six months the multiple paid for each dollar of sales rose about 58% while sales per share rose about 6%.
against this

The shares are below the $36.23 high of 11 September and fell 6.9% the day IDC's count came out (C37).

current state · 2026-10-22written 2026-10-23
C37facthigh confidence
The shares fell from $24.32 on 25 November 2025 to $19.00 on 3 February 2026, the day after the chief executive left, and to $17.56 later that month; they rose about 8% after the May print, fell 6.9% on 9 October after IDC's count, and rose 7.8% on 22 October with no company news in the feed.
historical · November 2025 to October 2026written 2026-10-23
C09factmedium confidence
IDC counts 62.7M PCs shipped in the September 2026 quarter, down 20.1%: Lenovo 14.9M, HP 10.3M at a 16.5% share and Dell 7.6M. HP's 30.9% fall was the steepest of the top five; IDC says vendors and channels bought early ahead of price rises and that prices will stay well above a year earlier.
against this

HP's own fiscal quarter to July shows units down 16% (C03); part of the later fall may be stock bought early, which IDC itself names.

historical · Q3 CY 2026written 2026-10-23
C38inferencemedium confidence
Without refunds, the October-quarter guide midpoint is about $0.66 of non-GAAP EPS, about 29% below the $0.93 of a year earlier.
against this

HP beat analysts' estimates in each of the last three quarters (C36).

forwardwritten 2026-10-23
C08management claimmedium confidence
In a September 2026 filing HP said it was not giving fiscal 2027 guidance yet, and that its planning assumes industry PC units fall by roughly a mid-single-digit percentage in calendar 2027.
against this

IDC says PC prices will stay well above a year earlier (C09), and higher prices are what cut units in 2026.

forwardwritten 2026-10-23
How we read the multiple

A buyer is paying for this year's profit to carry into next year. Without the tariff refunds, this year's earnings are about flat on last year's, and analysts expect much the same again in 2027, while HP itself plans for fewer PCs and dearer memory.

  1. HP forecasts $3.19 to $3.29 of adjusted earnings per share this year.
  2. About 19 cents of that is one-off tariff refunds.
  3. At $33.76, the shares cost about 10.4 times the forecast's middle.
  4. Analysts expect about $3.19 in fiscal 2027, so the price assumes profit holds.

Against its own history. Buyers pay more than usual for each dollar of HP's profit, on profit that is not growing, so the recent rise is a better mood, not a better business.

The evidence under this - 5 claims
C33inferencemedium confidence
At $33.76 the shares are 10.4 times the fiscal 2026 non-GAAP guide midpoint, 11.1 times it without refunds and 10.6 times fiscal 2027 consensus; the vendor's trailing GAAP multiple of 12.7 compares with its six-year median of about 9.0.
against this

Guided free cash flow of $3.0B to $3.2B is about a 10% yield on the $30.4B market value, and the dividend about 3.6% (C05, C21).

current state · 2026-10-22written 2026-10-23
C05management claimmedium confidence
Management raised fiscal 2026 guidance to non-GAAP EPS of $3.19 to $3.29, including $0.19 of tariff refunds, GAAP EPS of $2.52 to $2.62 and free cash flow of $3.0B to $3.2B; for the October quarter it guides non-GAAP EPS of $0.69 to $0.79, including $0.08 of refunds.
against this

The October-quarter guide is below the $0.93 of non-GAAP EPS earned a year earlier (C36).

forwardwritten 2026-10-23
C06inferencemedium confidence
Without tariff refunds the fiscal 2026 guide midpoint is about $3.05 of non-GAAP EPS, about 2% below fiscal 2025's $3.12, although revenue is running about 9.5% higher.
against this

Fiscal 2025 carried tariff costs that the refunds partly return, so the two years are not struck on the same cost base (C25).

forwardwritten 2026-10-23
C34facthigh confidence
Of 52 analysts in the vendor's snapshot 16 rate HP a buy, 28 a hold and 8 a sell; consensus expects $3.26 a share for fiscal 2026, $3.19 for fiscal 2027 and $3.39 for fiscal 2028. The dated series shows the positive share falling from 21.1% in February to 10.0% in October.
against this

Short interest is a modest 8.1% of the float (C35), so few are betting heavily against it.

current state · 2026-10-22written 2026-10-23
C20inferencemedium confidence
Over the year to July 2026 free cash flow was about $3.9B, above the $3.0B to $3.2B guided for fiscal 2026, because payables rose faster than inventory.
against this

Fiscal 2025's $2.9B of free cash flow (C21), with no such swing, is the steadier figure.

current state · 2026-07-31written 2026-10-23
Priced against its rivals

None of the listed rivals above sells the same thing to the same buyers as a large part of what it does. A price comparison needs at least two, so the price is judged against its own history instead.

Private or foreign rivals that cannot be priced: Lenovo Group, Acer and ASUSTeK, Canon, Seiko Epson, Brother and Ricoh, Pantum, Huawei, Samsung Electronics and Toshiba.

Where we disagree with the market

The market believes

HP can pass dearer memory on to buyers and keep its earnings flat into 2027, with a 10% cash yield to wait on.

We believe

Passing costs on cost HP the most buyers of any big maker; flat 2027 profit needs that to stop.

The market may be right that memory prices ease and businesses replace old PCs with AI machines in 2027, which would let margins recover. HP says the October quarter is the low point.

Against that, HP's own planning assumes fewer PCs again next year, and it lost more buyers than any big rival the last time it raised prices.

What analysts say, and the evidence
Analysts positive
10%
of 20, 1 Oct
Four months earlier
11%
of 18, 1 Jun
The evidence under this - 6 claims
C33inferencemedium confidence
At $33.76 the shares are 10.4 times the fiscal 2026 non-GAAP guide midpoint, 11.1 times it without refunds and 10.6 times fiscal 2027 consensus; the vendor's trailing GAAP multiple of 12.7 compares with its six-year median of about 9.0.
against this

Guided free cash flow of $3.0B to $3.2B is about a 10% yield on the $30.4B market value, and the dividend about 3.6% (C05, C21).

current state · 2026-10-22written 2026-10-23
C34facthigh confidence
Of 52 analysts in the vendor's snapshot 16 rate HP a buy, 28 a hold and 8 a sell; consensus expects $3.26 a share for fiscal 2026, $3.19 for fiscal 2027 and $3.39 for fiscal 2028. The dated series shows the positive share falling from 21.1% in February to 10.0% in October.
against this

Short interest is a modest 8.1% of the float (C35), so few are betting heavily against it.

current state · 2026-10-22written 2026-10-23
C06inferencemedium confidence
Without tariff refunds the fiscal 2026 guide midpoint is about $3.05 of non-GAAP EPS, about 2% below fiscal 2025's $3.12, although revenue is running about 9.5% higher.
against this

Fiscal 2025 carried tariff costs that the refunds partly return, so the two years are not struck on the same cost base (C25).

forwardwritten 2026-10-23
C09factmedium confidence
IDC counts 62.7M PCs shipped in the September 2026 quarter, down 20.1%: Lenovo 14.9M, HP 10.3M at a 16.5% share and Dell 7.6M. HP's 30.9% fall was the steepest of the top five; IDC says vendors and channels bought early ahead of price rises and that prices will stay well above a year earlier.
against this

HP's own fiscal quarter to July shows units down 16% (C03); part of the later fall may be stock bought early, which IDC itself names.

historical · Q3 CY 2026written 2026-10-23
C10factmedium confidence
Gartner counts 55.4M PCs in the September 2026 quarter, down 22.4%, after DRAM costs rose five times in a year and PC makers passed them on. It says HP had the steepest decline, 30.9%, but kept second place, its exposure to price-sensitive consumer and mainstream business buyers weighing; Apple gained share.
against this

Gartner says business demand held up best for workstations and AI PCs, where HP says it is gaining share (C11).

historical · Q3 CY 2026written 2026-10-23
C40inferencemedium confidence
If memory keeps rising in fiscal 2027 while units fall again, Personal Systems can hold its revenue only on higher prices, which is what cost HP the most share of any large maker in the September quarter.
against this

Management says memory costs rise more slowly in fiscal 2027 and October is the margin low (C07), and premium and AI PCs are gaining share (C11).

forwardwritten 2026-10-23
06

What could go wrong, and how we would know

The risks

  • Losing more PC buyers. If memory keeps getting dearer, HP must raise prices again, and the last rise cost it a third of its shipments.
  • Thin PC margins. PCs keep about 5 cents a dollar; a small squeeze from memory costs or price cuts wipes out much of the profit.
  • Ink slowly drying up. Refillable ink tanks, copied cartridges and less office printing shrink the supplies that earn most of HP's profit.
  • No permanent chief executive. A new leader could change the cost plan, the dividend or the buybacks.
  • Suppliers fund the business. HP owes suppliers about five months of costs; paying them faster would take billions out of its cash.
The evidence under this - 7 claims
C09factmedium confidence
IDC counts 62.7M PCs shipped in the September 2026 quarter, down 20.1%: Lenovo 14.9M, HP 10.3M at a 16.5% share and Dell 7.6M. HP's 30.9% fall was the steepest of the top five; IDC says vendors and channels bought early ahead of price rises and that prices will stay well above a year earlier.
against this

HP's own fiscal quarter to July shows units down 16% (C03); part of the later fall may be stock bought early, which IDC itself names.

historical · Q3 CY 2026written 2026-10-23
C10factmedium confidence
Gartner counts 55.4M PCs in the September 2026 quarter, down 22.4%, after DRAM costs rose five times in a year and PC makers passed them on. It says HP had the steepest decline, 30.9%, but kept second place, its exposure to price-sensitive consumer and mainstream business buyers weighing; Apple gained share.
against this

Gartner says business demand held up best for workstations and AI PCs, where HP says it is gaining share (C11).

historical · Q3 CY 2026written 2026-10-23
C40inferencemedium confidence
If memory keeps rising in fiscal 2027 while units fall again, Personal Systems can hold its revenue only on higher prices, which is what cost HP the most share of any large maker in the September quarter.
against this

Management says memory costs rise more slowly in fiscal 2027 and October is the margin low (C07), and premium and AI PCs are gaining share (C11).

forwardwritten 2026-10-23
C07management claimmedium confidence
On the August call the chief financial officer said PC units across the industry would fall by the high teens in the second half of 2026 as price rises pressure demand, that memory would take a larger share of a PC's cost, that the benefit of cheaper older inventory was largely behind it, that the October quarter would be the low for Personal Systems margins, and that Print's 16% to 19% margin range holds in fiscal 2027.
against this

IDC and Gartner show HP's own units falling about 31% in the September quarter, half again the market's fall (C09, C10).

forwardwritten 2026-10-23
C14factmedium confidence
IDC counts 17.2M printers and copiers shipped worldwide in the June 2026 quarter, down 7.0%, worth $8.1B, down 5.8%, with ink-tank models taking share from cartridge models.
historical · Q2 CY 2026written 2026-10-23
C26facthigh confidence
Chief executive Enrique Lores left on 2 February 2026 to take a job outside HP. Director Bruce Broussard, a former Humana chief executive, is interim chief executive on $362,500 a month and a $7M share award vesting in February 2027; in August he said the search was going well but gave no timeline.
against this

The finance chief and both segment heads stayed in post (C28), so the operating team is unchanged.

current state · 2026-10-23written 2026-10-23
C19facthigh confidence
At July 2026 HP owed suppliers $21.4B, 151 days of costs, against $10.3B of inventory and $7.2B of receivables, so suppliers fund its working capital. In the nine months, higher payables added $3.3B to operating cash flow while the inventory build took out $1.9B.
against this

Stock bought ahead of memory price rises is part of the inventory, so some of this unwinds as it is sold (C07).

current state · 2026-07-31written 2026-10-23
What we still do not know
  • Who will be HP's permanent chief executive, and will they keep the cost plan and the cash returns?
  • How much of the rise in PC prices is memory passed on, and how much is buyers choosing better machines?
  • What lifted the shares almost 8% on 22 October 2026, when the company said nothing?
The evidence under this - 3 claims
C26facthigh confidence
Chief executive Enrique Lores left on 2 February 2026 to take a job outside HP. Director Bruce Broussard, a former Humana chief executive, is interim chief executive on $362,500 a month and a $7M share award vesting in February 2027; in August he said the search was going well but gave no timeline.
against this

The finance chief and both segment heads stayed in post (C28), so the operating team is unchanged.

current state · 2026-10-23written 2026-10-23
C04inferencemedium confidence
Personal Systems revenue per PC rose roughly 40% in the July quarter: the segment's growth was higher prices for memory-heavy machines, not more machines.
against this

A richer mix of commercial, premium and AI PCs also lifts the average price (C11), so not all of the rise is memory passed on.

historical · Q3 FY 2026written 2026-10-23
C37facthigh confidence
The shares fell from $24.32 on 25 November 2025 to $19.00 on 3 February 2026, the day after the chief executive left, and to $17.56 later that month; they rose about 8% after the May print, fell 6.9% on 9 October after IDC's count, and rose 7.8% on 22 October with no company news in the feed.
historical · November 2025 to October 2026written 2026-10-23

What would change our view

  1. Neutral→AttractiveA cheaper price on the same profit

    It needs:

    • ○The shares fall to about 8 times this year's forecast earnings, from about 10.4.about $25.97 today, 23% below the last close
  2. Neutral→AttractiveFiscal 2027 holds up

    It needs all of:

    • ○HP's 2027 forecast calls for adjusted earnings of at least $3.05 a share and at least $3B of free cash.checked at the next results, due by 24 Nov
    • ○The PC business keeps more than 5 cents of each dollar again in the first half of fiscal 2027.checked at the next results, due by 24 Nov
  3. Neutral→UnattractiveThe profit breaks

    It needs:

    • ○HP's 2027 forecast puts adjusted earnings below $2.80 a share.checked at the next results, due by 24 Nov
We would also be wrong if
  • Printing keeps less than 16 cents of each dollar for two quarters without refunds.
  • Ink and toner sales fall more than 5% a year.

What is coming

  • 24 November 2026 Q4 fiscal 2026 results and fiscal 2027 outlook: Whether the October quarter is the margin low and what HP guides for fiscal 2027 earnings and cash.
Every dated event ahead
  • 24 November 2026 Q4 fiscal 2026 results and fiscal 2027 outlook: Whether the October quarter is the margin low and what HP guides for fiscal 2027 earnings and cash.
  • 15 January 2027 IDC and Gartner December-quarter PC counts: Whether HP's units still fall faster than the market's.
  • 28 February 2027 Q1 fiscal 2027 results: Whether Personal Systems' margin climbs back toward its range as memory costs slow.
Since we wrote this
Written
23 Oct
Price the thesis read
$33.76
22 Oct
  • 23 OctThesis writtenNeutral, medium convictionWritten a month before Q4 results, after the shares rose 62% in six months while IDC and Gartner showed HP's PC units down 31%.

Sources 15

Where this came from

Sources - 15

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  1. S01primarycompany filing2025-12-10
    what it sells, the segments, competition, the fiscal 2025 statements, supplies and printer units and the executive officers
    backsC01C02C12C28
  2. S02primarycompany release2025-11-25
    fiscal 2025 EPS and free cash flow, capital returned, the dividend and the Fiscal 2026 Plan
    backsC02C06C21C22C36
  3. S03primarycompany release2026-08-26
    the July quarter by segment, units, cash conversion and the raised fiscal 2026 guidance
    backsC03C04C05C06C19C33C36C38
  4. S04primarycompany filing2026-08-27
    the balance sheet, the debt table, the nine months by segment, buybacks, the share count, tariff refunds and the restructuring plan
    backsC03C17C18C19C20C22C23C24C25
  5. S05primarytranscript2026-08-26
    HP third-quarter fiscal 2026 earnings call transcript (FMP), held 26 August 2026
    the PC market outlook, memory costs, the margin low, AI PC mix, supplies and print outlook, cash returns and the CEO search
    PC units will decline high teens in the second half as pricing actions pressure demand.
    backsC07C11C13C26C27C40
  6. S06primarycompany filing2026-02-25
    pay, the bonus scorecard, ownership and the executives
    backsC28C29C30
  7. S07primarycompany filing2026-02-03
    Lores leaving, Broussard as interim chief executive and his pay
    backsC26
  8. S08primarycompany filing2026-09-21
    no fiscal 2027 guidance yet and the planning assumption for 2027 PC units
    backsC08C40
  9. S09secondaryindustry data2026-10-08
    PC shipments by vendor for the September 2026 quarter and IDC's reading of prices
    HP recorded the steepest year-over-year decline among the top five vendors, with shipments falling 30.9%
    backsC09C40
  10. S10secondaryindustry data2026-10-12
    Gartner's PC count, the DRAM cost rise and HP's exposure
    HP Inc. recorded the steepest decline with shipments down 30.9% but maintained its No. 2 position.
    backsC10
  11. S11primaryindustry data2026-09-08
    printer shipments and value, and ink tanks taking share
    Worldwide hardcopy peripherals shipments continued to contract, declining by 7.0% year-over-year to 17.2 million shipments in the second quarter of 2026
    backsC14
  12. S13primarycompany filing2026-03-16
    Dell's PC revenue and margin
    backsC16
  13. S14primarycompany filing2026-03-17
    HP named among the larger print rivals, Xerox's print revenue and the Lexmark purchase
    backsC15
  14. S15primaryvendor data2026-10-22
    Research pack for HPQ (FMP market tier, FINRA short interest, Form 4 insider trades), fetched 23 October 2026
    the 22 October close, returns and the move split, daily bars, multiples and their history, analyst ratings and estimates, earnings surprises, short interest and insider trades
    backsC31C32C33C34C35C36C37C38
  15. S16primarycompany filing2026-10-23
    revenue, margins, cash flow and share counts for fiscal 2021 to the trailing year
    backsC20C24C39
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